Toyo, RA1, R-compound, Tires, MPTCC, Racecar
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Toyo RA1 Tested cover

 Tested: Toyo Proxes RA1

By Steve Rockwood

 

It seems the RA1 has been around since before time began. Ask an "old timer" (well, relatively) and they'll tell you that the RA1 was the holy grail of DOT competition tires. A decade ago, a walk through the hot pits of any track event would net you rows and rows of RA1-shod cars. Times have changed, but have they passed the RA1 by? We installed a set on Project G20 Racecar to find out.

First, we need a little background on why RA1s are still available. A couple of years ago, Toyo did the unthinkable and took the nearly ubiquitous RA1 and replaced it with the slightly more capable, but less forgiving and faster-wearing R888. While the move made sense from a lap-times and progress perspective, many lamented the change because they felt it did not represent the same dollar per lap bargain and ease of use that they enjoyed with the RA1. Luckily, Toyo decided to re-start production in 2010, and it was immediately written back into nearly every NASA spec class rulebook. 

 

Toyo RA1 profile tread
Favored among racers for over a decade, the Toyo RA1 is still a relavent R-compound tire, but is it competitive against today's latest offerings?

 

So, what made the RA1 such an awesome tire that it could be brought back to life today despite all the recent offerings from competing companies? The RA1, like all tires, is all about compromise, and it achieved what is considered by many to be the ultimate in compromise: excellent grip and feedback, easy to drive to and beyond the limits, and iron-like wear (relatively speaking, that is). Add in the fact that the tires will continue to be consistent all the way through the rubber until the chords show, and you'll see why so many racers loved the RA1. 

A look inside the construction of the RA1 reveals a strong inner carcass that offers firm shoulders. The carcass itself is unidirectional, so tires can be moved left to right, giving the RA1 a distinct advantage over purely directional tires since most tracks tend to abuse one side of the car more than the other. Keep in mind that when on the "wrong" side, hydroplaning resistance will not be optimal since the tread itself is directional. 

 

Toyo RA1 inner carcass construction
While the tread pattern is directional for water evacuation purposes, the inner tire construction is omnidirectional, allowing you to rotate tires left to right, as well as re-mounted on the rim to offset cars that abuse the outer treadblocks.

 

The tire itself is optimized to operate at temperatures between 160°F and 220°F. Recommended alignment settings are between negative 2.5° and 5.0° camber and as much caster as possible (within reason, of course). Depending on static camber and vehicle weight, inflation pressures are recommended to stay in the 37 to 44psi range. On our G20, with 3° of negative camber up front, 1.75° of camber out back, and a race weight of 2550lbs, we started at 38psi hot and adjusted to keep temperatures consistent and handling balance in line. Our final pressures ended up at 40psi hot front and 42psi hot rear. The higher relative rear pressure was partly due to the poor camber gain from our G20's McStrut rear suspension and to allow the car to slide more easily. 

 

Toyo RA1 Project Infiniti G20 Racecar MPTCC
With three degrees of negative camber and a race weight of 2550lbs with driver, we settled on 40psi front and 42 psi rear to keep temperatures even across the front tires, and to help the car rotate on the less-stressed rear tires.

 

The tire comes new with 8/32" of tread depth, and many shave them to 4/32" where the lateral grooves disappear. Optimal dry traction begins at 6/32" and will continue all the way past when the tread mostly disappears at 3/32" down to the chords. Be careful with full-depth Toyos and a heavier car, as the tread can "chunk" on you if pushed too hard when new. 

 

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SirKneighf
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Monday, February 11, 2013 6:32 AM
Great Review,

Would it be possible for MotoIQ to test the Federal 595 RSR?
Its a bargain compared to the Toyo but I haven't read any good review about it.

Thanks!
matt
mattlink
Monday, February 11, 2013 6:36 AM
I'd be interested to see how the RA-1s compare against the new BFG Rival street tires. They have better grip than any previous street tire, comparable to older R-comps, yet they wear superbly. I bet the lap-to-dollar is much better and they probably are close in times.

Also would be interesting to see how much faster something like the BFG R1-S or A6 is than the RA1.
Rockwood
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Monday, February 11, 2013 6:54 AM
@ SirKneighf: We may get our hands on a Federal 595RSR. However, since they don't have anything wider than a 205mm in 15" sizes, and they're more street tire than a DOT-legal track tire, we'll probably not be testing them on our G20.

@ matt: I think the RA1s would still be faster than the Rivals.

We have not had a chance to try out a set of BFGs or Hoosiers on our car. We definitely would like our hand at them, however. That being said, we'd test the R6 and the R1 (not R1-S) on our car, as those are shorter life autocross tires and probably wouldn't survive a weekend of racing without heat-cycle or wear issues.
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Monday, February 11, 2013 8:19 AM
The other thing is that the RA-1 is fast until the cords come out. They only drop about a half second even after repeated heat cycles. I can sometimes get as many as 4 weekends from a set.
GCMBob
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Monday, February 11, 2013 1:02 PM
I'm with Mike on this observation. I do about 8 short one minute runs a month and in about 4 meets the R888 is cycled out to the point that they are as bad as street tires. The RA1s grip time they corded.
Rockwood
Rockwoodlink
Monday, February 11, 2013 3:15 PM
Yep. Like I said, consistent through the rubber to the chords. I always knew they weren't quite as fast as the ribbed slicks available now, but driven and set up right, they're definitely competitive.
VMax
VMaxlink
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 11:35 PM
@SirKneighf

I was running the a Set of the Federal 595-RSR last season on my Evo and to me the RSR is a trackable street-tire like the
Toyo R1-R. I never had the RA-1 but since it should have been
replaced by the R888 I think the RA-1 more of a streetable track-tire.

@Rockwood

You might better try the Federal FZ201 since its also dirt-cheap but a real track-tire compare to the RSR.

Cheers!
Rockwood
Rockwoodlink
Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:56 AM
@ Vmax: The difference between the R888 and the RA-1 isn't as much as you'd think. Set up properly, it might be a second on a 2 minute course.

I'll definitely check out the FZ201. Bummer is it doesn't come in a 225mm 15" size.
RYU
RYUlink
Wednesday, December 16, 2015 3:50 PM
Is there a section that consolidates all the Tire tests from MotoIQ? I was trying to look but no luck. I think they're all sprinkled in the articles.

Any thoughts on the dual duty of these tires? How do they perform when at street temps? Trying to find a more versatile tire like the Michelin Cup 2 which also has decent cool weather manners and great treadlife (or so I hear).
Rockwood
Rockwoodlink
Wednesday, December 16, 2015 4:15 PM
I drove on RA1s with a street car. While they work well, they offer optimal grip in the upper 100* temp range, which is a little warm for street duty and spur of the moment on ramp blitzkriegs.
MaysEffect101
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Saturday, March 12, 2016 8:53 PM
Hello all and admin. Is a 2012 production tire too old to use? Tirerack has a "decent" dicount of the size i need for the RA1, and i wanted to know if it is worth getting or get a slightly newer tire.
Rockwood
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Sunday, March 13, 2016 5:25 PM
4 years old is getting marginal. Kept indoors and bagged?
MaysEffect101
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Monday, March 21, 2016 12:23 AM
I ended up getting trofeo r tires. Tirerack Couldn't guarantee the usability of the tires. The Pirelli's were cheaper and newer.
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